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Expand 000453.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 standards meeting Thursday may 28 18.30 Vienna time (12.30 NY) pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 standards meeting Thursday may 28 18.30 Vienna time (12.30 NY) Peter Mapp peter at petermapp.com Tue May 26 10:52:59 EDT 2020 Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] From: Peter Mapp Sent: 26 May 2020 12:27 To: 'SC-04-08' Subject: SC-04-08 standards meeting Thursday may 28 18.30 Vienna time (12.30 NY) Just a reminder that the SC-04-08 on-line standards meeting is scheduled for Thursday at 18.30 Vienna time (12.30) NY. Minutes of NY meeting are in the document repository as is a draft tech note on noise measurement. This is not formatted for AES use, but merely to get the technical info down in a simple way for discussion. Regards Peter Mapp Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000454.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Richard Cabot standards at aes.org Wed May 27 22:29:28 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 standards meeting Thursday may 28 18.30 Vienna time (12.30 NY) Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] The AES SC-04-08 meeting is being held using Zoom. It is scheduled for Thursday at 9:30 LA time, 12:30 NY time, 18:30 Vienna time and for 1:30 Tokyo time. You can join the meeting at https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85348561958 Meeting ID: 853 4856 1958 One tap mobile +13126266799,,85348561958# US (Chicago) +19292056099,,85348561958# US (New York) Dial by your location +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Meeting ID: 853 4856 1958 Find your local number:https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kb7eUhkEZw I hope you can participate. Best regards, Rich -- Richard Cabot, PhD Standards Manager Audio Engineering Society Previous message: [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 standards meeting Thursday may 28 18.30 Vienna time (12.30 NY) Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000455.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting info at masterpinguin.de info at masterpinguin.de Thu May 28 13:49:19 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] as mentionened in the meeting I do have 2 small comments about the document TN Room Noise Measurement Rev 1: 1. There a small typo error on page 6 in the lower diagram it should say "Tolerance Class II" in the lower line right. 2. on page 2 last paragraph "Sound level meters meeting either "type 1 or type 2" ... For consistency shouldn't they be called "class 1 and class 2" as referred in the table of annex C (page 6) of the document ? best ralph kessler Pinguin Ing.Büro, Hamburg, Germany Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000456.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Peter Mapp peter at petermapp.com Thu May 28 14:01:20 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Many thanks Ralph - agreed - will action Best regards Peter -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org] On Behalf Of nomail via SC-04-08 Sent: 28 May 2020 18:49 To: sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting as mentionened in the meeting I do have 2 small comments about the document TN Room Noise Measurement Rev 1: 1. There a small typo error on page 6 in the lower diagram it should say "Tolerance Class II" in the lower line right. 2. on page 2 last paragraph "Sound level meters meeting either "type 1 or type 2" ... For consistency shouldn't they be called "class 1 and class 2" as referred in the table of annex C (page 6) of the document ? best ralph kessler Pinguin Ing.Büro, Hamburg, Germany _______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org <http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91> Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000457.html 5 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom Peter Mapp peter at petermapp.com Fri May 29 07:33:57 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom The meeting was chaired by Peter Mapp (SC-04-08 committee chair) 15 Participants joined the meeting - including the standards manager (RC)& chair (BO) The patent policy notice was read No objections / comments were raised concerning the agenda or the previous meeting's minutes. The members participating introduced themselves The current project is AES-X218 Measurement and calibration of sound reinforcement systems in rooms Three new documents were discussed (1) Decision Tree. Bruce Olson had produced an initial decision tree for room measurements. After discussion it was agreed that some corrections / additions were required (Eg system background noise / noise emission measurement & STI measurement). Action BO - By end of June (2) Measurement of room background noise level. PM had produced a draft document detailing the measurement of background noise. This was discussed in some detail , particularly with respect to statistical noise measures (Ln) Action Eddy Brixen to provide para on usefulness of statistical noise level measurements and usefulness or otherwise of Lmax & Lmin ? By end of June ANSI 12-9 environmental noise measurement discussed but decided not really applicable to rooms (at least at the moment). Also additional info on meter calibration to be added (Annex) PM. The objective is to have this info and draft doc to RC at start of July for him to format. Any comments please send to email group or pm directly and he will revise the text before sending to RC. (3) Measurement of reverberation time. PM tabled a second draft document he had produced concerning the measurement of reverberation time. Discussion took place concerning use of sound system to excite the room. PM noted he had covered this, but maybe a separate section is needed ? Any comments please send to email group or pm directly and he will revise the text. PM noted that he hoped to get 2 more sections finished this year, measurement of system noise and also STI measurement (At least a 2 page summary for this) Liaisons BO commented on the improvement in liaison with IEC. It was noted that a new version of 60268-16 - the STI standard (PM is chair) had been approved and is due out later this year There were no new projects or new business to report. The meeting adjourned at 18.55 BST. The next meeting is planned in conjunction with the 149th AES convention in October, 2020. Consideration to be given to a further zoom meeting as this allows more participants to be involved and with better audio quality that at normal meetings The chair thanked all those present for attending and felt at last that some progress was being made and encouraged those participating to read the posted documents and provide constructive comment. Previous message: [SC-04-08] AES SC-04-08 standards meeting Next message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000458.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Bruce C. Olson - AES bco at aes.org Wed Jun 3 04:04:20 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom Next message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Members of SC-04-08 Working Group, I have uploaded revised versions of the Visio drawing and the PDF for what will be Part 1 of the Information Document. Still needs some wrapper text for the document. The file names are Sound-System-Measurements_Decision-Tree_2020-06-03.vsdx and Sound-System-Measurements_Decision-Tree_2020-06-03.pdf. You can find them on the WG document repository at https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91. Best Regards, Bruce -- Bruce C. Olson, FAES, FASA Audio Engineering Society email: bco at aes.org Previous message: [SC-04-08] Draft Report SC-04-08 meeting Held 28 May 2020 via Zoom Next message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000459.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Peter Mapp peter at petermapp.com Wed Jun 3 06:36:56 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Next message: [SC-04-08] Fall meeting on Thursday Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Thanks Bruce - that's better ! I will update the noise measurement & RT documents at the end of the month when I have received comments/agreed updates. Originally, measuring the noise floor of the sound system was going to be a separate document - (as was RT via the system) but it makes sense to add it to the main document (218-2) as you have indicated. I will add this at the end of June. Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org] On Behalf Of Bruce C. Olson - AES via SC-04-08 Sent: 03 June 2020 09:04 To: SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org Subject: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Members of SC-04-08 Working Group, I have uploaded revised versions of the Visio drawing and the PDF for what will be Part 1 of the Information Document. Still needs some wrapper text for the document. The file names are Sound-System-Measurements_Decision-Tree_2020-06-03.vsdx and Sound-System-Measurements_Decision-Tree_2020-06-03.pdf. You can find them on the WG document repository at https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91. Best Regards, Bruce -- Bruce C. Olson, FAES, FASA Audio Engineering Society email: bco at aes.org _______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org <http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91> Previous message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Next message: [SC-04-08] Fall meeting on Thursday Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 000460.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link [SC-04-08] Fall meeting on Thursday pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } [SC-04-08] Fall meeting on Thursday Richard Cabot standards at aes.org Mon Oct 5 21:19:13 EDT 2020 Previous message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] As a reminder, the formal fall meeting of the SC-04-08 Working Group on Measurement of sound systems in rooms is Thursday October 8 at 2:00 PM UTC (7AM PDT, 10AM EDT, 15:00 London, 23:00 Tokyo) The complete fall meeting schedule is at https://www.aes.org/standards/meetings/aessc149-SC_sched-v1.0-200905.pdf The preliminary agendas are at https://www.aes.org/standards/meetings/ You may join the Zoom meeting at https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85348561958?pwd=NXhuNThLdHRUb2QwekpwK1hYb3dtdz09 Meeting ID: 853 4856 1958 Passcode: 825923 Best regards, Rich -- Richard Cabot, PhD Standards Manager Audio Engineering Society Previous message: [SC-04-08] New x218 Documents Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list Expand 0 Comments Public All Members My Connections Only Me PublicAll MembersMy ConnectionsOnly Me Public All Members My Connections Only Me