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Documents Folder Title Following special characters are not supported: \ / ? % * : | " < > Privacy Public All Members My Connections Only Me Cancel Create 000361.html 10 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>david murphy</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3CDC98EF6CF2F08F40AA5AA23B3509EDA982B8D68D7A%40KRIX-DC.Krix.local%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">dmurphy at krix.com.au </A><BR> <I>Tue Jan 10 20:02:33 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000360.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000362.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#361">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#361">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#361">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#361">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Hi all, I can add that late last year I had to change my password, could pay my dues, log into members' section OK. When I tried yesterday, my new password didn't work, but the previous one did! Go figure!! best wishes for the New Year to all, David PS will upload my comments on the SMPTE RP soon. David Murphy Loudspeaker Design Engineer Commercial Cinema Krix 14 Chapman Road | Hackham SA 5163 | Australia T +618 83843433 | F +618 83843419 Email: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A> | Web: www.krix.com DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Krix immediately. Whilst we have used software to alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this email and any files transmitted with it are free from them. ________________________________________ From: SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of Glenn Leembruggen via SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>] Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9:01 AM To: 'philip newell'; 'Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms'; 'Floyd Toole' Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; 'David Josephson'; 'Richard Cabot' Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x And weirdly, I can log into the members section, but we can't log in to pay the dues.... Glenn Leembruggen Principal Acoustic Directions Pty Ltd Consultants in Acoustics & Sound Systems www.acousticdirections.com tel: +612 9810 7033 mob: +61 418 207 085 -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of philip newell via SC-04-08 Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 8:59 PM To: Floyd Toole <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>>; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>; Richard Cabot <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A>> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x Dear Floyd, During the last two weeks I have been in conversation with the AES webmaster because I have not been able to log into the website with one of my computers, despite two confirmations of name and password. I have still not resolved the problem and the webmaster seems to have no idea of what the problem may be. However, (surprise surprise) the website that takes the payments for the AES membership renewal took my money with no problem at all, via the same computer! Best wishes, Philip On 9 January 2017 at 23:31, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did </I>><i> not know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( Added to my </I>><i> frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log in, even </I>><i> after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await response from </I>><i> someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow membership, allow </I>><i> me access to the journal, and get on with some standards work. I don't </I>><i> need this! </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>know: ><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if anyone </I>><i> is interested . . . </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not </I>><i> 17-01-09 and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> </I>><i> Thanks </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>><i> > Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>><i> > There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>><i> > Cheers, </I>><i> > Floyd Toole </I>><i> > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>_______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <A HREF="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</A> _______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000360.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000362.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#361">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#361">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#361">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#361">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000360.html 8 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>Glenn Leembruggen</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3C01b401d26b91%243aa61ac0%24aff25040%24%40acousticdirections.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">glenn at acousticdirections.com </A><BR> <I>Tue Jan 10 17:31:02 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000359.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000361.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#360">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#360">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#360">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#360">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>And weirdly, I can log into the members section, but we can't log in to pay the dues.... Glenn Leembruggen Principal Acoustic Directions Pty Ltd Consultants in Acoustics & Sound Systems www.acousticdirections.com tel: +612 9810 7033 mob: +61 418 207 085 -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of philip newell via SC-04-08 Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 8:59 PM To: Floyd Toole <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>>; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>; Richard Cabot <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A>> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x Dear Floyd, During the last two weeks I have been in conversation with the AES webmaster because I have not been able to log into the website with one of my computers, despite two confirmations of name and password. I have still not resolved the problem and the webmaster seems to have no idea of what the problem may be. However, (surprise surprise) the website that takes the payments for the AES membership renewal took my money with no problem at all, via the same computer! Best wishes, Philip On 9 January 2017 at 23:31, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did </I>><i> not know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( Added to my </I>><i> frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log in, even </I>><i> after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await response from </I>><i> someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow membership, allow </I>><i> me access to the journal, and get on with some standards work. I don't </I>><i> need this! </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>know: ><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if anyone </I>><i> is interested . . . </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not </I>><i> 17-01-09 and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> </I>><i> Thanks </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>><i> > Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>><i> > There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>><i> > Cheers, </I>><i> > Floyd Toole </I>><i> > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>_______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <A HREF="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</A> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000359.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000361.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#360">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#360">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#360">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#360">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000362.html 12 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhAC%3DfAbfKXLByVTq1Cy9UHfrat7PBhC2iWDbpCFep5G6_zg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Wed Jan 11 05:03:49 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000361.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000363.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#362">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#362">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#362">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#362">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>The webmaster suggested that I may be suffering from finger trouble and mis-keying, but I don't think so! Or are we all getting senile??? Philip On 11 January 2017 at 02:02, david murphy <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com.au</A>> wrote: ><i> Hi all, </I>><i> I can add that late last year I had to change my password, could pay my </I>><i> dues, log into members' section OK. </I>><i> When I tried yesterday, my new password didn't work, but the previous one </I>><i> did! Go figure!! </I>><i> best wishes for the New Year to all, </I>><i> David </I>><i> </I>><i> PS will upload my comments on the SMPTE RP soon. </I>><i> </I>><i> David Murphy </I>><i> Loudspeaker Design Engineer </I>><i> Commercial Cinema </I>><i> </I>><i> Krix </I>><i> 14 Chapman Road | Hackham SA 5163 | Australia </I>><i> T +618 83843433 | F +618 83843419 </I>><i> Email: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A> | Web: www.krix.com </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> DISCLAIMER: </I>><i> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the </I>><i> intended recipient and may be privileged. If you are not the intended </I>><i> recipient, please notify Krix immediately. Whilst we have used software to </I>><i> alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this </I>><i> email and any files transmitted with it are free from them. </I>><i> ________________________________________ </I>><i> From: SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of Glenn </I>><i> Leembruggen via SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>] </I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9:01 AM </I>><i> To: 'philip newell'; 'Working group on Measurement and equalization of </I>><i> sound systems in rooms'; 'Floyd Toole' </I>><i> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; 'David Josephson'; 'Richard Cabot' </I>><i> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </I>><i> </I>><i> And weirdly, I can log into the members section, but we can't log in to pay </I>><i> the dues.... </I>><i> </I>><i> Glenn Leembruggen </I>><i> Principal </I>><i> Acoustic Directions Pty Ltd </I>><i> Consultants in Acoustics & Sound Systems </I>><i> www.acousticdirections.com </I>><i> tel: +612 9810 7033 </I>><i> mob: +61 418 207 085 </I>><i> </I>><i> -----Original Message----- </I>><i> From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of </I>><i> philip newell via SC-04-08 </I>><i> Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 8:59 PM </I>><i> To: Floyd Toole <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>>; Working group on Measurement </I>><i> and </I>><i> equalization of sound systems in rooms <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>><i> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>; Richard </I>><i> Cabot <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A>> </I>><i> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> During the last two weeks I have been in conversation with </I>><i> the AES webmaster because I have not been able to log into the website with </I>><i> one of my computers, despite two confirmations of name and password. I have </I>><i> still not resolved the problem and the webmaster seems to have no idea of </I>><i> what the problem may be. </I>><i> </I>><i> However, (surprise surprise) the website that takes the </I>><i> payments for the AES membership renewal took my money with no problem at </I>><i> all, via the same computer! </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Best wishes, </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Philip </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 9 January 2017 at 23:31, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> > David </I>><i> > Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did </I>><i> > not know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> > complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( Added to my </I>><i> > frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log in, even </I>><i> > after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await response from </I>><i> > someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow membership, allow </I>><i> > me access to the journal, and get on with some standards work. I don't </I>><i> > need this! </I>><i> > The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> > If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>><i> know: </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if anyone </I>><i> > is interested . . . </I>><i> > Cheers, </I>><i> > Floyd </I>><i> > </I>><i> > On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> > </I>><i> > </I>><i> > Dear Floyd, </I>><i> > </I>><i> > Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> > please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> > and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> > filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not </I>><i> > 17-01-09 and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> > </I>><i> > Thanks </I>><i> > </I>><i> > David Josephson </I>><i> > Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> > </I>><i> > </I>><i> > On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>><i> > > Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> > sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>><i> > > There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>><i> > > Cheers, </I>><i> > > Floyd Toole </I>><i> > > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> > > <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > > </I>><i> > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > </I>><i> > </I>><i> > </I>><i> > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secu... 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Please download to view the full file. 000363.html 13 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>david murphy</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3CDC98EF6CF2F08F40AA5AA23B3509EDA982B8D68D7F%40KRIX-DC.Krix.local%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">dmurphy at krix.com.au </A><BR> <I>Wed Jan 11 05:12:30 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000362.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000364.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#363">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#363">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#363">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#363">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Hi Philip, Us? Senile? NOT A BIT OF IT! BTW who were you again? (joke) cheers David David Murphy Loudspeaker Design Engineer Commercial Cinema Krix 14 Chapman Road | Hackham SA 5163 | Australia T +618 83843433 | F +618 83843419 Email: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A> | Web: www.krix.com DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Krix immediately. Whilst we have used software to alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this email and any files transmitted with it are free from them. ________________________________________ From: philip newell [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">philiprnewell at gmail.com</A>] Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017 8:33 PM To: david murphy Cc: Glenn Leembruggen; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms; Floyd Toole; <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; David Josephson; Richard Cabot Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x The webmaster suggested that I may be suffering from finger trouble and mis-keying, but I don't think so! Or are we all getting senile??? Philip On 11 January 2017 at 02:02, david murphy <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com.au</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com.au</A>>> wrote: Hi all, I can add that late last year I had to change my password, could pay my dues, log into members' section OK. When I tried yesterday, my new password didn't work, but the previous one did! Go figure!! best wishes for the New Year to all, David PS will upload my comments on the SMPTE RP soon. David Murphy Loudspeaker Design Engineer Commercial Cinema Krix 14 Chapman Road | Hackham SA 5163 | Australia T +618 83843433<tel:%2B618%2083843433> | F +618 83843419<tel:%2B618%2083843419> Email: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A>> | Web: www.krix.com<<A HREF="http://www.krix.com">http://www.krix.com</A>> DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Krix immediately. Whilst we have used software to alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this email and any files transmitted with it are free from them. ________________________________________ From: SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>>] On Behalf Of Glenn Leembruggen via SC-04-08 [<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>>] Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9:01 AM To: 'philip newell'; 'Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms'; 'Floyd Toole' Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>>; 'David Josephson'; 'Richard Cabot' Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x And weirdly, I can log into the members section, but we can't log in to pay the dues.... Glenn Leembruggen Principal Acoustic Directions Pty Ltd Consultants in Acoustics & Sound Systems www.acousticdirections.com<<A HREF="http://www.acousticdirections.com">http://www.acousticdirections.com</A>> tel: +612 9810 7033<tel:%2B612%209810%207033> mob: +61 418 207 085<tel:%2B61%20418%20207%20085> -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>>] On Behalf Of philip newell via SC-04-08 Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 8:59 PM To: Floyd Toole <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>>>; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>>> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>>; David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>>; Richard Cabot <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A>>> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x Dear Floyd, During the last two weeks I have been in conversation with the AES webmaster because I have not been able to log into the website with one of my computers, despite two confirmations of name and password. I have still not resolved the problem and the webmaster seems to have no idea of what the problem may be. However, (surprise surprise) the website that takes the payments for the AES membership renewal took my money with no problem at all, via the same computer! Best wishes, Philip On 9 January 2017 at 23:31, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>>> wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did </I>><i> not know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( Added to my </I>><i> frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log in, even </I>><i> after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await response from </I>><i> someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow membership, allow </I>><i> me access to the journal, and get on with some standards work. I don't </I>><i> need this! </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>know: ><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>> is my email. The document awaits, if anyone </I>><i> is interested . . . </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the A... Expand This file was truncated for preview. Please download to view the full file. 000364.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>John Woodgate</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3C04ae01d26bf3%2474c52db0%245e4f8910%24%40btinternet.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">jmw1937 at btinternet.com </A><BR> <I>Wed Jan 11 05:14:12 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000363.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000365.html">[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#364">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#364">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#364">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#364">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>I don't know; I've forgotten the symptoms. What was the question, again? With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of philip newell via SC-04-08 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:04 AM To: david murphy <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com.au</A>> Cc: Glenn Leembruggen <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">glenn at acousticdirections.com</A>>; Floyd Toole <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A>>; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>>; David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>; Richard Cabot <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">rich at xfrm.com</A>>; <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x The webmaster suggested that I may be suffering from finger trouble and mis-keying, but I don't think so! Or are we all getting senile??? Philip ><i> </I> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000363.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000365.html">[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#364">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#364">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#364">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#364">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000365.html 5 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy</H1> <B>david murphy</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Comments%20uploaded%20by%20David%20Murphy&In-Reply-To=%3CDC98EF6CF2F08F40AA5AA23B3509EDA982B8D68D81%40KRIX-DC.Krix.local%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy">dmurphy at krix.com.au </A><BR> <I>Thu Jan 12 06:48:17 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000364.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000366.html">[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#365">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#365">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#365">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#365">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Hi all, I have just uploaded my comments to the upload/download website for SC-04-08, named SMPTE_2096-1_Comment_David_Murphy_Jan_2017 A very short summary follows I note that that in 2. Introduction: end of para 4 “….The suite does not define new standards or supercede current ones, but offers current approaches and methodology using modern equipment to more accurately calibrate within the tolerances of the existing standards.” Accordingly I will try to comment only on the methodology, and hope a better frequency response standard than the X Curve Standard can be developed. Worthwhile improvement, more use cases for microphone placement, specifying target area for frequency response and including LFE as well. Big advance is using FFT measuring system allowing windowing etc. Concern about hearing protection if operator is in theatre – to chase down rattles and buzzes using frequency sweeps at -3dBFS (or -10dBFS) will be very loud, exceeds operator’s noise dose? Concern about loose terminology for measuring variations of SPL in seating area – needs more specificity. Loose terminology also re listening test evaluation Fraught suggestions for verifying crossover integrity of screen loudspeakers. refer uploaded doc for my suggestions! In general the document is a bit Panglossian, assuming that everything is best practice, such as infinite baffle mounting of screen loudspeaker systems, well behaved loudspeaker systems, lots of absorption everywhere, well behaved reflections and RT60, etc. I think it would be good to give some hints or guidance on what to do if any or all of these conditions are not present. For example, how to select appropriate window length and shape for the measurement. best regards David David Murphy Loudspeaker Design Engineer Commercial Cinema Krix 14 Chapman Road | Hackham SA 5163 | Australia T +618 83843433 | F +618 83843419 Email: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dmurphy at krix.com</A> | Web: www.krix.com DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Krix immediately. Whilst we have used software to alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this email and any files transmitted with it are free from them. </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000364.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000366.html">[SC-04-08] Comments uploaded by David Murphy </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#365">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#365">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#365">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#365">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000356.html 6 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>David Josephson</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3C2d5b8741-4781-3f64-58e6-b7d7801b2d4c%40josephson.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">dlj at josephson.com </A><BR> <I>Mon Jan 9 17:44:53 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000355.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000357.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#356">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#356">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#356">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#356">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Floyd, No problem -- we'll figure out how to get you active with the protocol, as cumbersome as it may be. Email me (<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>) the comments as an attachment and I will post it for you. I will ask Steve Johnson to get with you and figure out what happened to your password. There's a lot of stuff to do and only one guy to do it. Brian, we don't *need* to review the comments as they are being passed on without comment by SC-04-08, but having them available on the doc site will be helpful so that members *can* review them. David Josephson On 1/9/2017 2:31 PM, Floyd Toole wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did not </I>><i> know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( </I>><i> </I>><i> Added to my frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log </I>><i> in, even after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await </I>><i> response from someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow </I>><i> membership, allow me access to the journal, and get on with some </I>><i> standards work. I don't need this! </I>><i> </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>><i> know: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if </I>><i> anyone is interested . . . </I>><i> </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 </I>><i> <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not 17-01-09 </I>><i> and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> </I>><i> Thanks </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>>><i> Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>>><i> There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>>><i> Cheers, </I>>><i> Floyd Toole </I>>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000355.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000357.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#356">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#356">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#356">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#356">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000357.html 7 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>Richard Cabot</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3C2EC97A6E5F2A48C881892BA5C7107BD9%40RCC%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">rich at xfrm.com </A><BR> <I>Mon Jan 9 18:04:17 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000356.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000358.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#357">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#357">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#357">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#357">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>David, I already uploaded Floyds document to the reflector when his email came in. However, I did not rename it with the filename you suggested. Rich -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of David Josephson via SC-04-08 Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:45 PM To: Floyd Toole; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound systems in rooms Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; Richard Cabot Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x Floyd, No problem -- we'll figure out how to get you active with the protocol, as cumbersome as it may be. Email me (<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>) the comments as an attachment and I will post it for you. I will ask Steve Johnson to get with you and figure out what happened to your password. There's a lot of stuff to do and only one guy to do it. Brian, we don't *need* to review the comments as they are being passed on without comment by SC-04-08, but having them available on the doc site will be helpful so that members *can* review them. David Josephson On 1/9/2017 2:31 PM, Floyd Toole wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did not </I>><i> know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( </I>><i> </I>><i> Added to my frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log </I>><i> in, even after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await </I>><i> response from someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow </I>><i> membership, allow me access to the journal, and get on with some </I>><i> standards work. I don't need this! </I>><i> </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>><i> know: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if </I>><i> anyone is interested . . . </I>><i> </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 </I>><i> <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not 17-01-09 </I>><i> and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> </I>><i> Thanks </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>>><i> Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>>><i> There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>>><i> Cheers, </I>>><i> Floyd Toole </I>>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>_______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000356.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000358.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#357">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#357">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#357">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#357">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000358.html 8 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>David Josephson</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3Cc7ca188c-2a5f-0c83-f1e8-3625a1cad32a%40josephson.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">dlj at josephson.com </A><BR> <I>Mon Jan 9 18:20:52 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000357.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000359.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#358">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#358">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#358">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#358">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Rich, thanks -- no need to be picky about the file name in this case, but it helps when trying to track lots of comments. David On 1/9/2017 3:04 PM, Richard Cabot via SC-04-08 wrote: ><i> David, </I>><i> </I>><i> I already uploaded Floyds document to the reflector when his email came in. </I>><i> However, I did not rename it with the filename you suggested. </I>><i> </I>><i> Rich </I>><i> </I>><i> -----Original Message----- </I>><i> From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of </I>><i> David Josephson via SC-04-08 </I>><i> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:45 PM </I>><i> To: Floyd Toole; Working group on Measurement and equalization of sound </I>><i> systems in rooms </I>><i> Cc: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at yonge.org.uk</A>; Richard Cabot </I>><i> Subject: Re: [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </I>><i> </I>><i> Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> No problem -- we'll figure out how to get you active with the protocol, </I>><i> as cumbersome as it may be. Email me (<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>) the comments as </I>><i> an attachment and I will post it for you. I will ask Steve Johnson to </I>><i> get with you and figure out what happened to your password. There's a </I>><i> lot of stuff to do and only one guy to do it. </I>><i> </I>><i> Brian, we don't *need* to review the comments as they are being passed </I>><i> on without comment by SC-04-08, but having them available on the doc </I>><i> site will be helpful so that members *can* review them. </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 2:31 PM, Floyd Toole wrote: </I>>><i> David </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did not </I>>><i> know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely </I>>><i> complained and did not constructively offer assistance :-( </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Added to my frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log </I>>><i> in, even after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await </I>>><i> response from someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow </I>>><i> membership, allow me access to the journal, and get on with some </I>>><i> standards work. I don't need this! </I>>><i> </I>>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. </I>>><i> If you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me </I>>><i> know: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if </I>>><i> anyone is interested . . . </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Cheers, </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Floyd </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 </I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not 17-01-09 </I>>><i> and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Thanks </I>>><i> </I>>><i> David Josephson </I>>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>>>><i> Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>>>><i> There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>>>><i> Cheers, </I>>>><i> Floyd Toole </I>>>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>>>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>>><i> </I>>>><i> </I>>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> </I>>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000357.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000359.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#358">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#358">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#358">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#358">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000359.html 6 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Floyd%20Toole%20comments%20on%20SMPTE%20RP%202096-1%3A201x&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhACkqVj9ocJCq%3DGehnb3-piFWdaO65mu0GdM%2BZFTaW5FrzA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Tue Jan 10 04:59:00 EST 2017</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000358.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000360.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#359">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#359">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#359">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#359">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear Floyd, During the last two weeks I have been in conversation with the AES webmaster because I have not been able to log into the website with one of my computers, despite two confirmations of name and password. I have still not resolved the problem and the webmaster seems to have no idea of what the problem may be. However, (surprise surprise) the website that takes the payments for the AES membership renewal took my money with no problem at all, via the same computer! Best wishes, Philip On 9 January 2017 at 23:31, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> David </I>><i> Sorry about that - I have not worked with this group before and did not </I>><i> know the protocol. John Woodgate of course does . . . but merely complained </I>><i> and did not constructively offer assistance :-( </I>><i> Added to my frustration is that the AES site refuses my attempts to log </I>><i> in, even after changing passwords and sign-in ID. So I now await response </I>><i> from someone at AES allowing me to renew my life fellow membership, allow </I>><i> me access to the journal, and get on with some standards work. I don't need </I>><i> this! </I>><i> The SMPTE folks have already received and responded to the attachment. If </I>><i> you have any other thoughts about how we can get on with this, let me know: </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">soundnwine at sbcglobal.net</A> is my email. The document awaits, if anyone is </I>><i> interested . . . </I>><i> Cheers, </I>><i> Floyd </I>><i> </I>><i> On Monday, January 9, 2017 1:55 PM, David Josephson via SC-04-08 < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear Floyd, </I>><i> </I>><i> Messages to the AESSC reflectors do not accept attachments. Would you </I>><i> please login <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> </I>><i> and upload your comments to the SC-04-08 documents directory with </I>><i> filename x215-toole-170109.doc (substitute whatever date if not 17-01-09 </I>><i> and whatever file format if not .doc) </I>><i> </I>><i> Thanks </I>><i> </I>><i> David Josephson </I>><i> Chair, SC-04 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> On 1/9/2017 11:40 AM, Floyd Toole via SC-04-08 wrote: </I>><i> > Attached please find my comments on the SMPTE submission. I will be </I>><i> sending them directly to the SMPTE standards committee as well. </I>><i> > There is a lot to think about at this time. </I>><i> > Cheers, </I>><i> > Floyd Toole </I>><i> > _______________________________________________ </I>><i> > SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> > <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000358.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000360.html">[SC-04-08] Floyd Toole comments on SMPTE RP 2096-1:201x </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#359">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#359">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#359">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#359">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 0 Comments Public All Members My Connections Only Me PublicAll MembersMy ConnectionsOnly Me Public All Members My Connections Only Me
