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Documents Folder Title Following special characters are not supported: \ / ? % * : | " < > Privacy Public All Members My Connections Only Me Cancel Create 000317.html 7 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting</H1> <B>Brian Long</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20GoToMeeting%20Invitation%20-%20aes139_SC-04-08-meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CD25A2732.201F1%25blong%40skysound.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting">blong at skysound.com </A><BR> <I>Sat Oct 31 11:08:23 EDT 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000316.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000318.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#317">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#317">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#317">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#317">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>The 04 08 meeting does not start for some hours. The meeting is at 16:00 eastern. It is only 11:00 eastern now. On 10/31/15, 8:06 AM, "Thomas Lagö via SC-04-08" <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i>I am trying to login but only get some ³marketing pages ‹³buy this² </I>><i>How do I get to the meeting? </I>><i> </I>><i>Dr Thomas Lagö </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>>><i> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:04, AES Standards via SC-04-08 </I>>><i><<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Dear SC-04-08, </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT </I>>><i>later today. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals </I>>><i>made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a </I>>><i>whole based on the meeting¹s output report, or a specific email call for </I>>><i>comment. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds </I>>><i>horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the </I>>><i>microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless </I>>><i>you need to speak. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits </I>>><i>Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change </I>>><i>this and so we ask for your understanding. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Regards, </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Mark Yonge </I>>><i> AES Standards Manager </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org1.</A> Please join my meeting, 31 Oct 2015 at 16:00 GMT-4. </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733</A> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> 2. Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. </I>>><i>Or, call in using your telephone. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> United Kingdom: +44 (0) 330 221 0099 </I>>><i> Australia: +61 2 8355 1039 </I>>><i> Austria: +43 7 2088 2172 </I>>><i> Belgium: +32 (0) 42 68 0180 </I>>><i> Canada: +1 (647) 497-9379 </I>>><i> Denmark: +45 89 88 05 39 </I>>><i> Finland: +358 (0) 931 58 4588 </I>>><i> France: +33 (0) 170 950 589 </I>>><i> Germany: +49 (0) 692 5736 7301 </I>>><i> Ireland: +353 (0) 15 360 757 </I>>><i> Italy: +39 0 294 75 15 37 </I>>><i> Netherlands: +31 (0) 108 080 116 </I>>><i> New Zealand: +64 9 801 0294 </I>>><i> Norway: +47 21 51 81 86 </I>>><i> Spain: +34 911 23 4248 </I>>><i> Sweden: +46 (0) 852 500 516 </I>>><i> Switzerland: +41 (0) 435 0824 41 </I>>><i> United States: +1 (224) 501-3318 </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Access Code: 523-247-733 </I>>><i> Audio PIN: Shown after joining the meeting </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Meeting ID: 523-247-733 </I>>><i> </I>>><i> GoToMeeting® </I>>><i> Online Meetings Made Easy® </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Not at your computer? Click the link to join this meeting from your </I>>><i>iPhone®, iPad®, Android® or Windows Phone® device via the GoToMeeting </I>>><i>app. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Mark Yonge </I>>><i> AES Standards Manager </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i>_______________________________________________ </I>><i>SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i><A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i><<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000316.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000318.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#317">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#317">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#317">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#317">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000318.html 8 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20GoToMeeting%20Invitation%20-%20aes139_SC-04-08-meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhAC%3DFn8mQi4_fs-ySteiqa3E4_GPhknSoTERCzhrmPXQS1Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Sat Oct 31 11:21:04 EDT 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000317.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000319.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#318">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#318">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#318">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#318">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>The clocks went back in Europe lat Sunday, so I'm not sure where we are relative to the USA, but the UK is on GMT and Spain and Germany are now on GMT+1. Anyhow, if it is only 11.20 in New York, now, that means 4 hours behind the UK and 5 behind central Europe (I think). It is16.20 in Spain (on CET). Philip On 31 October 2015 at 16:08, Brian Long via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> The 04 08 meeting does not start for some hours. The meeting is at 16:00 </I>><i> eastern. </I>><i> </I>><i> It is only 11:00 eastern now. </I>><i> </I>><i> On 10/31/15, 8:06 AM, "Thomas Lagö via SC-04-08" </I>><i> <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> >I am trying to login but only get some ³marketing pages ‹³buy this² </I>><i> >How do I get to the meeting? </I>><i> > </I>><i> >Dr Thomas Lagö </I>><i> > </I>><i> > </I>><i> >> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:04, AES Standards via SC-04-08 </I>><i> >><<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Dear SC-04-08, </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT </I>><i> >>later today. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals </I>><i> >>made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a </I>><i> >>whole based on the meeting¹s output report, or a specific email call for </I>><i> >>comment. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds </I>><i> >>horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the </I>><i> >>microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless </I>><i> >>you need to speak. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits </I>><i> >>Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change </I>><i> >>this and so we ask for your understanding. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Regards, </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Mark Yonge </I>><i> >> AES Standards Manager </I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org1.</A> Please join my meeting, 31 Oct 2015 at 16:00 </I>><i> GMT-4. </I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733</A> </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> 2. Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. </I>><i> >>Or, call in using your telephone. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> United Kingdom: +44 (0) 330 221 0099 </I>><i> >> Australia: +61 2 8355 1039 </I>><i> >> Austria: +43 7 2088 2172 </I>><i> >> Belgium: +32 (0) 42 68 0180 </I>><i> >> Canada: +1 (647) 497-9379 </I>><i> >> Denmark: +45 89 88 05 39 </I>><i> >> Finland: +358 (0) 931 58 4588 </I>><i> >> France: +33 (0) 170 950 589 </I>><i> >> Germany: +49 (0) 692 5736 7301 </I>><i> >> Ireland: +353 (0) 15 360 757 </I>><i> >> Italy: +39 0 294 75 15 37 </I>><i> >> Netherlands: +31 (0) 108 080 116 </I>><i> >> New Zealand: +64 9 801 0294 </I>><i> >> Norway: +47 21 51 81 86 </I>><i> >> Spain: +34 911 23 4248 </I>><i> >> Sweden: +46 (0) 852 500 516 </I>><i> >> Switzerland: +41 (0) 435 0824 41 </I>><i> >> United States: +1 (224) 501-3318 </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Access Code: 523-247-733 </I>><i> >> Audio PIN: Shown after joining the meeting </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Meeting ID: 523-247-733 </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> GoToMeeting® </I>><i> >> Online Meetings Made Easy® </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Not at your computer? Click the link to join this meeting from your </I>><i> >>iPhone®, iPad®, Android® or Windows Phone® device via the GoToMeeting </I>><i> >>app. </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> Mark Yonge </I>><i> >> AES Standards Manager </I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> </I>><i> >> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> >> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> >> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> > </I>><i> >_______________________________________________ </I>><i> >SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> ><A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> ><<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000317.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000319.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#318">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#318">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#318">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#318">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000319.html 6 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting</H1> <B>Thomas Lagö</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20GoToMeeting%20Invitation%20-%20aes139_SC-04-08-meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CA3ADD0A1-C8E2-49AF-9357-BEEE0504C47F%40gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting">thomaswowwe at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Sat Oct 31 11:22:48 EDT 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000318.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000320.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#319">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#319">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#319">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#319">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>I am trying to login but only get some “marketing pages —“buy this” How do I get to the meeting? Dr Thomas Lagö ><i> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:04, AES Standards via SC-04-08 <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> Dear SC-04-08, </I>><i> </I>><i> Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT later today. </I>><i> </I>><i> Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a whole based on the meeting’s output report, or a specific email call for comment. </I>><i> </I>><i> To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless you need to speak. </I>><i> </I>><i> You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change this and so we ask for your understanding. </I>><i> </I>><i> Regards, </I>><i> </I>><i> Mark Yonge </I>><i> AES Standards Manager </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org1.</A> Please join my meeting, 31 Oct 2015 at 16:00 GMT-4. </I>><i> <A HREF="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733</A> </I>><i> </I>><i> 2. Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. Or, call in using your telephone. </I>><i> </I>><i> United Kingdom: +44 (0) 330 221 0099 </I>><i> Australia: +61 2 8355 1039 </I>><i> Austria: +43 7 2088 2172 </I>><i> Belgium: +32 (0) 42 68 0180 </I>><i> Canada: +1 (647) 497-9379 </I>><i> Denmark: +45 89 88 05 39 </I>><i> Finland: +358 (0) 931 58 4588 </I>><i> France: +33 (0) 170 950 589 </I>><i> Germany: +49 (0) 692 5736 7301 </I>><i> Ireland: +353 (0) 15 360 757 </I>><i> Italy: +39 0 294 75 15 37 </I>><i> Netherlands: +31 (0) 108 080 116 </I>><i> New Zealand: +64 9 801 0294 </I>><i> Norway: +47 21 51 81 86 </I>><i> Spain: +34 911 23 4248 </I>><i> Sweden: +46 (0) 852 500 516 </I>><i> Switzerland: +41 (0) 435 0824 41 </I>><i> United States: +1 (224) 501-3318 </I>><i> </I>><i> Access Code: 523-247-733 </I>><i> Audio PIN: Shown after joining the meeting </I>><i> </I>><i> Meeting ID: 523-247-733 </I>><i> </I>><i> GoToMeeting® </I>><i> Online Meetings Made Easy® </I>><i> </I>><i> Not at your computer? Click the link to join this meeting from your iPhone®, iPad®, Android® or Windows Phone® device via the GoToMeeting app. </I>><i> </I>><i> Mark Yonge </I>><i> AES Standards Manager </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000318.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000320.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#319">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#319">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#319">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#319">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000320.html 6 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting</H1> <B>Eddy B. Brixen</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Meeting%20report%20SC-04-08%20October%202015%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C013801d11898%248e82fde0%24ab88f9a0%24%40ebb-consult.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting">ebb at ebb-consult.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Nov 6 08:39:27 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000319.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000321.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#320">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#320">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#320">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#320">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear WG of SC-04-08, Please find below the report of October 2015 meeting Br, Eddy B. Brixen SC-04-08 meeting report, New York, October 2015. The meeting was convened by interim chair Eddy B. Brixen. The secretary presented the formal notice on patent policy. The agenda and report of the previous meeting, held in Warsaw, Poland, May 2015, were accepted as written. AES-X218 - "Measurement and calibration of sound systems in rooms." The chair pointed out that the project now needs to enter the writing process, as there already have been discussions, however, nothing has been concluded yet. SMPTE document At the last meeting, it was mentioned that the SMPTE would have finished a document on measurement techniques for cinema system calibration by this time. However, we understand that this document has not been finished yet. A draft version is expected to be put to a vote by next month (November 2015). It was mentioned that it should be regarded as an interim project, until a methodology involving more modern measurement techniques is described. In this respect, the SMPTE is also waiting for the AES-X218 to finish. Definition of "sound systems" The chair wanted a clarification whether the term "sound systems" includes the frontend with live microphones. A reproduction system solely cover B-chain. However, reinforcement systems include microphones. As the loudspeakers are common for both systems it was agreed that it is most appropriate to work on a document that encompasses the reproduction side of the system, and then eventually add microphones in an addendum. Parameters to measure In order to move on with the project it was decided define the parameters to measure. When decided, the group can move on to the measurement procedures. The following parameters were proposed: Frequency response SPL Coverage Speech Intelligibility Distortion Background Noise (acoustical) System noise (acoustical) Reverberation time Gain structure Max SPL Temporal response / Impulse response Frequency response and SPL are regarded as top-level parameters that have a fundamental influence on other parameters. Next step With this meeting report, all members are urged to comment whether the list of parameters is adequate/complete as soon as possible. Commenting on the reflector should be finished by the end of November. Then members (of the working group) must assign themselves to writing groups each covering measuring procedures for one (or perhaps more) parameter to be documented. Phone meetings can be held at an regular basis to make things happen before the next convention in June. AES-X219 "Method of measurement for frequency and impulse response of sound systems in auditoria" Status: AES-X219 pending detailed scope. The project is postponed until the X-218 has reached some conclusions which may/may not involve impulse response. Liaisons There were no new liaison issues. New Projects None New Business None Next meeting June Paris, France (physical meeting). Meetings to be held in the virtual space for the progress of the project. First meeting around December 1st, 2015. </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000319.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Invitation - aes139_SC-04-08-meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000321.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#320">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#320">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#320">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#320">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000321.html 8 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting</H1> <B>Peter Mapp</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Meeting%20report%20SC-04-08%20October%202015%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C5cfc9c74de67407eb66025d9282a0739%40MBX22.CloudPlatform1.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting">peter at petermapp.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Nov 6 09:53:10 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000320.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000328.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#321">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#321">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#321">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#321">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Thanks Eddy At the meeting everyone pointed at me when 'intelligibility' was mentioned, so to get the ball rolling I will lead the WG on intelligibility. I would also be happy to lead on Reverberation Time and Background Noise level (acoustical). With my SC04 Vice Chair hat on I would like to see a lead for each of the Topics agreed by end of December latest and then a list produced of who is leading each task and who is in each group. I would imagine that members many could be involved in many of the topics and will have much to contribute - but each topic needs a WG leader to co-ordinate the effort. Some of the topics will take more effort / be more difficult to obtain a consensus than others but by Paris I would hope that each topic will have some substantial content to discuss. A monthly review emil starting end of December might help us all keep on track ? I have added a table of topics and WG members to kick things off. Regards Peter Parameter WG Leader/co-ordinator Members Frequency Response SPL & Max SPL Coverage Speech Intelligibility PM Distortion Background Noise (acoustic) PM Background Noise (System) Reverberation Time PM Gain Structure Temporal Response / Impulse response -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of Eddy B. Brixen via SC-04-08 Sent: 06 November 2015 13:39 To: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> Subject: [SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting Dear WG of SC-04-08, Please find below the report of October 2015 meeting Br, Eddy B. Brixen SC-04-08 meeting report, New York, October 2015. The meeting was convened by interim chair Eddy B. Brixen. The secretary presented the formal notice on patent policy. The agenda and report of the previous meeting, held in Warsaw, Poland, May 2015, were accepted as written. AES-X218 - "Measurement and calibration of sound systems in rooms." The chair pointed out that the project now needs to enter the writing process, as there already have been discussions, however, nothing has been concluded yet. SMPTE document At the last meeting, it was mentioned that the SMPTE would have finished a document on measurement techniques for cinema system calibration by this time. However, we understand that this document has not been finished yet. A draft version is expected to be put to a vote by next month (November 2015). It was mentioned that it should be regarded as an interim project, until a methodology involving more modern measurement techniques is described. In this respect, the SMPTE is also waiting for the AES-X218 to finish. Definition of "sound systems" The chair wanted a clarification whether the term "sound systems" includes the frontend with live microphones. A reproduction system solely cover B-chain. However, reinforcement systems include microphones. As the loudspeakers are common for both systems it was agreed that it is most appropriate to work on a document that encompasses the reproduction side of the system, and then eventually add microphones in an addendum. Parameters to measure In order to move on with the project it was decided define the parameters to measure. When decided, the group can move on to the measurement procedures. The following parameters were proposed: Frequency response SPL Coverage Speech Intelligibility Distortion Background Noise (acoustical) System noise (acoustical) Reverberation time Gain structure Max SPL Temporal response / Impulse response Frequency response and SPL are regarded as top-level parameters that have a fundamental influence on other parameters. Next step With this meeting report, all members are urged to comment whether the list of parameters is adequate/complete as soon as possible. Commenting on the reflector should be finished by the end of November. Then members (of the working group) must assign themselves to writing groups each covering measuring procedures for one (or perhaps more) parameter to be documented. Phone meetings can be held at an regular basis to make things happen before the next convention in June. AES-X219 "Method of measurement for frequency and impulse response of sound systems in auditoria" Status: AES-X219 pending detailed scope. The project is postponed until the X-218 has reached some conclusions which may/may not involve impulse response. Liaisons There were no new liaison issues. New Projects None New Business None Next meeting June Paris, France (physical meeting). Meetings to be held in the virtual space for the progress of the project. First meeting around December 1st, 2015. _______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A><mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000320.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000328.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#321">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#321">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#321">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#321">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000322.html 7 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting</H1> <B>Brian Long</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Meeting%20report%20SC-04-08%20October%202015%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C8DBDC6D514F3F44B99EA56F331381FE1C42B29AA%40mailbox10.lucas.alllucas.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting">blong at skysound.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Nov 6 17:31:38 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000340.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000323.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#322">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#322">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#322">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#322">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>HI All, The section regarding the status of the SMPTE document is inaccurate in regards to what is happening. In Nov. 2015 SMPTE will send our document out for real world testing. After this phase is completed, feedback taken, and revisions made it will be voted on in SMPTE. Also I'm not waiting on anything from 218. If there happens to be work done that is useful then great! If not then it won't be considered. Regards, Brian Long Chair SMPTE 25CSS Modern Calibration Also member SC-04-08 and other commitees.... -----Original Message----- From: SC-04-08 [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08-bounces at standards.aes.org</A>] On Behalf Of Eddy B. Brixen via SC-04-08 Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 5:39 AM To: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> Subject: [SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting Dear WG of SC-04-08, Please find below the report of October 2015 meeting Br, Eddy B. Brixen SC-04-08 meeting report, New York, October 2015. The meeting was convened by interim chair Eddy B. Brixen. The secretary presented the formal notice on patent policy. The agenda and report of the previous meeting, held in Warsaw, Poland, May 2015, were accepted as written. AES-X218 - "Measurement and calibration of sound systems in rooms." The chair pointed out that the project now needs to enter the writing process, as there already have been discussions, however, nothing has been concluded yet. SMPTE document At the last meeting, it was mentioned that the SMPTE would have finished a document on measurement techniques for cinema system calibration by this time. However, we understand that this document has not been finished yet. A draft version is expected to be put to a vote by next month (November 2015). It was mentioned that it should be regarded as an interim project, until a methodology involving more modern measurement techniques is described. In this respect, the SMPTE is also waiting for the AES-X218 to finish. Definition of "sound systems" The chair wanted a clarification whether the term "sound systems" includes the frontend with live microphones. A reproduction system solely cover B-chain. However, reinforcement systems include microphones. As the loudspeakers are common for both systems it was agreed that it is most appropriate to work on a document that encompasses the reproduction side of the system, and then eventually add microphones in an addendum. Parameters to measure In order to move on with the project it was decided define the parameters to measure. When decided, the group can move on to the measurement procedures. The following parameters were proposed: Frequency response SPL Coverage Speech Intelligibility Distortion Background Noise (acoustical) System noise (acoustical) Reverberation time Gain structure Max SPL Temporal response / Impulse response Frequency response and SPL are regarded as top-level parameters that have a fundamental influence on other parameters. Next step With this meeting report, all members are urged to comment whether the list of parameters is adequate/complete as soon as possible. Commenting on the reflector should be finished by the end of November. Then members (of the working group) must assign themselves to writing groups each covering measuring procedures for one (or perhaps more) parameter to be documented. Phone meetings can be held at an regular basis to make things happen before the next convention in June. AES-X219 "Method of measurement for frequency and impulse response of sound systems in auditoria" Status: AES-X219 pending detailed scope. The project is postponed until the X-218 has reached some conclusions which may/may not involve impulse response. Liaisons There were no new liaison issues. New Projects None New Business None Next meeting June Paris, France (physical meeting). Meetings to be held in the virtual space for the progress of the project. First meeting around December 1st, 2015. _______________________________________________ SC-04-08 mailing list <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000340.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000323.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#322">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#322">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#322">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#322">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000323.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting</H1> <B>John Murray</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20SC-04-08%20at%20AES%20NYC%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C80C71C41-F6DF-478B-A4C8-90C863A588BA%40optimumss.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting">john at optimumss.com </A><BR> <I>Thu Nov 12 20:06:11 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000322.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000324.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#323">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#323">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#323">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#323">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Peter and all, As I mentioned at the meeting, I volunteer to be in the working groups for: 1) Frequency Response and 2) Gain Structure. I don’t know that I could chair any group for AES as I have not been a member of any AES working groups in the past to know how it is done, but I would be glad to serve as a member of either of the above working groups. BTW, I do have a distributable draft of the InfoComm Spectral Balance standard if anyone is interested. It might help the AES to speed the development of the Frequency Response standard. I am a member of the committee that developed it. Respectfully, John Murray, Principal Optimum System Solutions (OSS) 719-332-3456 <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">john at OptimumSS.com</A> www.OptimumSS.com </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000322.html">[SC-04-08] Meeting report SC-04-08 October 2015 meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000324.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#323">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#323">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#323">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#323">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000324.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting</H1> <B>neil a shaw</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20SC-04-08%20at%20AES%20NYC%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C56454DC4.1060705%40ieee.org%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting">menlo at ieee.org </A><BR> <I>Thu Nov 12 21:41:08 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000323.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000327.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#324">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#324">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#324">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#324">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>I am interested. Thanks. Neil A. Shaw, FASA, FAES Menlo Scientific Acoustics, Inc. Topanga, California +310-455-2221 On 11/12/15 17:06, John Murray via SC-04-08 wrote: ><i> Peter and all, </I>><i> </I>><i> As I mentioned at the meeting, I volunteer to be in the working groups for: 1) Frequency Response and 2) Gain Structure. I don’t know that I could chair any group for AES as I have not been a member of any AES working groups in the past to know how it is done, but I would be glad to serve as a member of either of the above working groups. </I>><i> </I>><i> BTW, I do have a distributable draft of the InfoComm Spectral Balance standard if anyone is interested. It might help the AES to speed the development of the Frequency Response standard. I am a member of the committee that developed it. </I>><i> </I>><i> Respectfully, </I>><i> </I>><i> John Murray, Principal </I>><i> Optimum System Solutions (OSS) </I>><i> 719-332-3456 </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">john at OptimumSS.com</A> </I>><i> www.OptimumSS.com </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000323.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000327.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#324">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#324">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#324">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#324">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000325.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting</H1> <B>Kurt Graffy</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20SC-04-08%20at%20AES%20NYC%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CB70E0EB2-9E96-48B1-94E9-EEACC108B744%40arup.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting">Kurt.Graffy at arup.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Nov 13 04:07:56 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000327.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000326.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#325">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#325">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#325">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#325">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>John: I'd be interested. Cheers. Kurt Sent from my iPhone ><i> On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:06 PM, John Murray via SC-04-08 <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: </I>><i> </I>><i> Peter and all, </I>><i> </I>><i> As I mentioned at the meeting, I volunteer to be in the working groups for: 1) Frequency Response and 2) Gain Structure. I don’t know that I could chair any group for AES as I have not been a member of any AES working groups in the past to know how it is done, but I would be glad to serve as a member of either of the above working groups. </I>><i> </I>><i> BTW, I do have a distributable draft of the InfoComm Spectral Balance standard if anyone is interested. It might help the AES to speed the development of the Frequency Response standard. I am a member of the committee that developed it. </I>><i> </I>><i> Respectfully, </I>><i> </I>><i> John Murray, Principal </I>><i> Optimum System Solutions (OSS) </I>><i> 719-332-3456 </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">john at OptimumSS.com</A> </I>><i> www.OptimumSS.com </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>____________________________________________________________ Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000327.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000326.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#325">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#325">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#325">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#325">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000326.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20SC-04-08%20at%20AES%20NYC%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhAC%3Dex%2BxFQs5kBGVCw2Us9NFj5zvNJU%2B0eO72AUr--ShLUQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Nov 13 04:16:40 EST 2015</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000325.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000329.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#326">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#326">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#326">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#326">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>I would also be interested. Philip On 13 November 2015 at 02:06, John Murray via SC-04-08 < <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> Peter and all, </I>><i> </I>><i> As I mentioned at the meeting, I volunteer to be in the working groups </I>><i> for: 1) Frequency Response and 2) Gain Structure. I don’t know that I </I>><i> could chair any group for AES as I have not been a member of any AES </I>><i> working groups in the past to know how it is done, but I would be glad to </I>><i> serve as a member of either of the above working groups. </I>><i> </I>><i> BTW, I do have a distributable draft of the InfoComm Spectral Balance </I>><i> standard if anyone is interested. It might help the AES to speed the </I>><i> development of the Frequency Response standard. I am a member of the </I>><i> committee that developed it. </I>><i> </I>><i> Respectfully, </I>><i> </I>><i> John Murray, Principal </I>><i> Optimum System Solutions (OSS) </I>><i> 719-332-3456 </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">john at OptimumSS.com</A> </I>><i> www.OptimumSS.com </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000325.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000329.html">[SC-04-08] SC-04-08 at AES NYC meeting </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#326">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#326">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#326">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#326">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 0 Comments Public All Members My Connections Only Me PublicAll MembersMy ConnectionsOnly Me Public All Members My Connections Only Me
