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<PRE>Hi David
I am a member of SC-04-08
Are you able to invite me to the SC-04-08A committee.
thanks very much
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<PRE>Sorry, copied from another message where attachments are allowed. I will
upload the zip when I have overcome the chaos caused by the Windows 10
update.

With best wishes. OOO - Own Opinions Only. www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
J M Woodgate and Associates RAYLEIGH Essex England
Please note my new email address <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">jmw1937 at btinternet.com</A>

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> I mentioned this at the Warsaw meeting. and there has been some progress.
> We (a group of Brits, including Peter Mapp) will be approaching ISO TC159
> through the BSI mirror committee PH/9, to produce a standard. Support from
> other countries through their ISO/TC159 mirror committees would be very
> welcome. The attached ZIP includes further information.
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<PRE>Hi Glenn,
I thought that if you were a ' member' ie on the AES SC-04-08 mailing list you are able to attend meetings, no problem. And if you aren't on the mailing list then it is quite easy to apply on-line and ' register', as it were.
Are you going to be at AES139 NY? I have just realised I am leaving for it next Wednesday!!!
Anyway, the Chairs are Peter Mapp and Eddy Bogh Brixen, and an email to either of them I am sure would result in appositive response ie come along!
Peter Mapp <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">peter at petermapp.com</A>>
Eddy B. Brixen <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">ebb at ebb-consult.com</A>>

Cheers
David

PS I must talk to you about FFT processing. I have a set of MLSSA results from my end-fire array and don't get the frequency responses I expected!
I have imported their text files into Excel, and manually time aligned the maxima, normalised them to the maximum of the furthest array member, summed and averaged them, and then attempted an FFT using Excel - quite a pain if I may say so!
There is probably an elegant way to do this in MatLab, but I don't have the skills I fear.

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Hi David
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thanks very much
Glenn

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<PRE>Probably - but I certainly can

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Hi David
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<PRE>I have asked Mark to add Glenn, Kurt and Neil to SC-04-08A per their 
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<PRE>David,

Let me know if you need help and support in regards to FFT processing. This is my specialty and I have multiple m-files in MATLAB for this purpose. I have also published many articles on FFT Signal Processing to avoid amplitude errors.

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> On 19 Oct 2015, at 23:58, david murphy via SC-04-08 <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Glenn,
> I thought that if you were a ' member' ie on the AES SC-04-08 mailing list you are able to attend meetings, no problem. And if you aren't on the mailing list then it is quite easy to apply on-line and ' register', as it were.
> Are you going to be at AES139 NY? I have just realised I am leaving for it next Wednesday!!!
> Anyway, the Chairs are Peter Mapp and Eddy Bogh Brixen, and an email to either of them I am sure would result in appositive response ie come along!
> Peter Mapp <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">peter at petermapp.com</A>>
> Eddy B. Brixen <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">ebb at ebb-consult.com</A>>
> 
> Cheers
> David
> 
> PS I must talk to you about FFT processing. I have a set of MLSSA results from my end-fire array and don't get the frequency responses I expected!
> I have imported their text files into Excel, and manually time aligned the maxima, normalised them to the maximum of the furthest array member, summed and averaged them, and then attempted an FFT using Excel - quite a pain if I may say so!
> There is probably an elegant way to do this in MatLab, but I don't have the skills I fear.
> 
> 
> 
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> Hi David
> I am a member of SC-04-08
> Are you able to invite me to the SC-04-08A committee.
> thanks very much
> Glenn 
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<PRE>Hi Joules,

I have taken the liberty of copying your email to the SC-04-08 
reflector, hope that's okay.

There must have been some alarmed traffic on a SMPTE group in the past 
few days. Four people asked to join the SC-04-08A task group, all of 
whom were, like you, already members of SC-04-08, and at least one of 
whom apparently didn't recall that he was already a member of SC-04-08A. 
It's great that people might be participating after nearly three years 
on this topic, but there has been very little discussion on the actual 
work of this task group. There can be no "glaring omissions and errors" 
because there is not even a draft of a standard to have anything omitted 
from it or erroneously included. Mr. McCarty circulated a document last 
year purporting to be a draft standard from AESSC, but in fact there was 
no involvement of the Standards Committee in writing it. Please make 
that clear to anyone who mentions his document.

AESSC is not involved in preparation of standards about hearing safety 
and it is unlikely that we would take on that work. X-227 is entirely 
about perceived loudness of a sound track with respect to its digital 
full scale level, separate from the establishment of reference sound 
pressure level to which a soundtrack might be indexed. Other projects 
are underway in SC-04-08 on calibration but frankly there does not seem 
to be critical mass of people to do the substantial actual work required 
to derive a consensus on best methods for these important tasks, nor is 
there funding to pay for the substantial legal and logistical support to 
assure that we proceed in a prudent direction. I have summarized these 
issues in an email to Philip Newell yesterday, which he indicated he 
will share with the SMPTE group. I can assure you that no standard will 
be published without due process in accordance with AESSC rules and the 
absence of technically valid sustained objection.

The work on X227 proceeds under the leadership of Eelco Grimm, with 
involvement from Florian Camerer, who together did much of the work 
toward the broadcast loudness standards. Once again these are on the 
topic of loudness of a sound track file irrespective of its playback 
level in a room. I hope there will be some progress to report at the New 
York meetings of SC-04-08 and SC-04-08A.

We welcome your participation.

Regards

David Josephson
Chair, SC-04
> Hi David.
>
> Regarding the SC 04 08A work.
>
> I suppose you've been "inundated" with the rest of the folks from the SMPYE group in the last day or so.
>
> Prior to this I was discussing with Francis Rumsey about joining this group.
>
> I'm still in the dark as to whatever happened with Mr McCarty and this group, but I had little involvement in such matters previously.
>
> Where I stand at the moment is that I had great experience with practical in-the-field application of the EU workplace noise regulations in Music entertainment venues.
> I believe I may have been a little "critical" of some of the work by the group up to now, but I simply didn't want to see a good chance to do something fall at the first hurdle because of glaring omissions and errors. I feel that many legislators would be looking to tear our work to pieces in order to keep their status quo.
>
> I was solely responsible for the implementation of compliance practices for about 400 UK music entertainment venues between 2005 and 2009, which included actual system design and tuning along with countless meetings and evidence gathering for the representatives of the local authorities.
>
> I am interested in the progress so far but have commented many times that the current position is weak in the case of having adequate evidence that there is actually any infringement of legal limits. I also have concern that nobody is doing any work to document whether cinema is actually any louder than any similar entertainment and nobody is questioning if intervention id justified based on actual (non fantasy) evidence of audience exposure.
> We really ned to do a lot of homework before going out on a limb and suggesting any control measures.
>
> I belive that this needs to be done quickly, the longer we procrastinate the more the badly implemenmted badly researched regulations like those in Belgium will creep into use and if we are not careful we will end up with a useless draconian law that serves nobody based solely on the fact that nobody challenged the precident.
>
> I take the real true protection of people's hearing VERY seriously, but in my experience the implementation of control measures is generally a shambles.
>
> I hope that you will allow me to join the SC 04 08A group as I would like to contribute what I have learned up to now for the benefit of the industry.
>
> Sadly I can't make the NY conference because of pressing work commitments, I really wish I could do.
>
> 
> Thanks
>
> Joules.
>
>
> Below, was the lead from Francis.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis Rumsey [mailto:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">francis.rumsey at aes.org</A>]
> Sent: 19 October 2015 15:50
> To: Joules Newell <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">joules at newellacousticengineering.com</A>>
> Cc: Bob Schulein <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">schulein at ameritech.net</A>>
> Subject: Re: AES New York
>
>
>
> Joules, I’m not closely involved with Standards, but as far as I understand it, the standards group SC-04-08 looking at that issue has struggled to find leadership since I understand that Ben Kok, who initially took on the job, resigned. David Josephson, as chair of SC-04, has been working to try to rekindle the activity, and it is not dead, so David would be the best person to discuss this with. David Josephson <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">dlj at josephson.com</A>>
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<PRE>Dear SC-04-08,

Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT later today.

Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a whole based on the meeting’s output report, or a specific email call for comment.

To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless you need to speak.

You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change this and so we ask for your understanding.

Regards,

Mark Yonge
AES Standards Manager
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<PRE>I am trying to login but only get some “marketing pages —“buy this”
How do I get to the meeting?

Dr Thomas Lagö

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:04, AES Standards via SC-04-08 <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote:
> 
> Dear SC-04-08,
> 
> Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT later today.
> 
> Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a whole based on the meeting’s output report, or a specific email call for comment.
> 
> To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless you need to speak. 
> 
> You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change this and so we ask for your understanding. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark Yonge
> AES Standards Manager
> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org1.</A> Please join my meeting, 31 Oct 2015 at 16:00 GMT-4.
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<PRE>I am trying to login but only get some “marketing pages —“buy this”
How do I get to the meeting?

Dr Thomas Lagö

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:04, AES Standards via SC-04-08 <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">sc-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A>> wrote:
> 
> Dear SC-04-08,
> 
> Please find below the call-in information for the meeting at 16:00 EDT later today.
> 
> Note that final decisions are not made in these meetings. Any proposals made during this meeting must be accepted by the working group as a whole based on the meeting’s output report, or a specific email call for comment.
> 
> To save stressing the VoIP echo-cancellation algorithms (which sounds horrible), please consider using a headset even if you need to use the microphone in your laptop. Please also keep your microphone muted unless you need to speak. 
> 
> You should be aware that the meeting room here at the Jacob Javits Center in NY is very reverberant. There's nothing we can do to change this and so we ask for your understanding. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark Yonge
> AES Standards Manager
> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org1.</A> Please join my meeting, 31 Oct 2015 at 16:00 GMT-4.
> <A HREF="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/523247733</A>
> 
> 2. Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. Or, call in using your telephone.
> 
> United Kingdom: +44 (0) 330 221 0099
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> Austria: +43 7 2088 2172
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> 
> Access Code: 523-247-733
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> 
> 
> 
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