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Documents Folder Title Following special characters are not supported: \ / ? % * : | " < > Privacy Public All Members My Connections Only Me Cancel Create 000181.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>Mark Yonge</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3C62C038FF-ED15-4EEE-97A7-8867BA3C6A48%40aes.org%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">standards at aes.org </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 08:54:55 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[SC-04-08] AES 137 In Los Angeles Fast Approaching </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear SC-04-08, I note that a new revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2, "Methods for the subjective assessment of small impairments in audio systems", has recently been published. BS.1116 has been used as a reference document for subjective listening tests for many years. This new revision, "... further recommends that further studies of the characteristics of listening rooms and reproduction devices for the advanced sound system are needed and this Recommendation should be updated when those studies are completed." It specifically introduces listening tests for quality of "advanced sound system" with an emphasis on timbral and spatial quality, which may be, I think, relevant for project AES-X218, "Measurement and calibration of sound systems in rooms". Comparing quickly with previous revision BS.1116-1, the changes appear to be in new clauses: 5.4 Advanced sound system; 8.3.3.4 Reference sound field conditions/ Impulse response; 8.5.5 Listening arrangements/ Reproduction of advanced sound system A free download of this ITU-R document is available at: <A HREF="http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BS.1116-2-201406-I/en">http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BS.1116-2-201406-I/en</A> regards, Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> tel: +44 1594 517200 skype: markyonge </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[SC-04-08] AES 137 In Los Angeles Fast Approaching </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000182.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>John Woodgate</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3CK91TSJVZP38TFwFb%40jmwa.demon.co.uk%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">jmw at jmwa.demon.co.uk </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 09:57:13 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>In message <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">62C038FF-ED15-4EEE-97A7-8867BA3C6A48 at aes.org</A>>, dated Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Mark Yonge <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A>> writes: ><i>It specifically introduces listening tests for quality of "advanced </I>><i>sound system" with an emphasis on timbral and spatial quality, </I> I noticed words in 'Timbral quality' on page 8 that I don't like: 'equalization' and 'fidelity'. They are not concepts of the same kind as the adjacent words. How can one detect 'equalization'? What is 'fidelity' if there is no original *live performance* (not a multi-channel mix) with which to compare? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000183.html 5 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhACk-b%2BZg9k9RKYt%3DyFK9DY7wVhpsXvY4%3DpWeSm-ALcCXrA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 10:54:45 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear Mark, This document often gets invoked for purposes for which it is not suitable, and it gets quoted in papers to which it is not relevant. Perhaps you should contact Floyd Toole about this. I am sure that he will have some stimulating thoughts about it. Best wishes, Philip On 19 August 2014 16:54, Mark Yonge <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A>> wrote: ><i> Dear SC-04-08, </I>><i> </I>><i> I note that a new revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2, "Methods for the subjective </I>><i> assessment of small impairments in audio systems", has recently been </I>><i> published. </I>><i> </I>><i> BS.1116 has been used as a reference document for subjective listening </I>><i> tests for many years. This new revision, "... further recommends that </I>><i> further studies of the characteristics of listening rooms and reproduction </I>><i> devices for the advanced sound system are needed and this Recommendation </I>><i> should be updated when those studies are completed." </I>><i> </I>><i> It specifically introduces listening tests for quality of "advanced sound </I>><i> system" with an emphasis on timbral and spatial quality, which may be, I </I>><i> think, relevant for project AES-X218, "Measurement and calibration of sound </I>><i> systems in rooms". </I>><i> </I>><i> Comparing quickly with previous revision BS.1116-1, the changes appear to </I>><i> be in new clauses: </I>><i> </I>><i> 5.4 Advanced sound system; </I>><i> 8.3.3.4 Reference sound field conditions/ Impulse response; </I>><i> 8.5.5 Listening arrangements/ Reproduction of advanced sound </I>><i> system </I>><i> </I>><i> A free download of this ITU-R document is available at: </I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BS.1116-2-201406-I/en">http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BS.1116-2-201406-I/en</A> </I>><i> </I>><i> regards, </I>><i> </I>><i> Mark Yonge </I>><i> AES Standards Manager </I>><i> </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> </I>><i> tel: +44 1594 517200 </I>><i> skype: markyonge </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000184.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>John Woodgate</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3CxRMdJzY%24q48TFwRG%40jmwa.demon.co.uk%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">jmw at jmwa.demon.co.uk </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 11:34:55 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000183.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000185.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#184">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#184">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#184">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#184">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>In message <CAEEhACk-b+Zg9k9RKYt=yFK9DY7wVhpsXvY4=<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">pWeSm-ALcCXrA at mail.gmail.com</A>>, dated Tue, 19 Aug 2014, philip newell <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">philiprnewell at gmail.com</A>> writes: ><i> </I>><i> This document often gets invoked for purposes for </I>><i>which it is not suitable, and it gets quoted in papers to which it is </I>><i>not relevant. </I> It would be very helpful if you could give one or two misuses and one or two mis-citations. ><i> </I>><i> Perhaps you should contact Floyd Toole about this. I </I>><i>am sure that he will have some stimulating thoughts about it. </I> Very likely. However, I have found that different groups of 'golden ears' can differ very widely in their opinions. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000183.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000185.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#184">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#184">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#184">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#184">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000185.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>philip newell</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAEEhACn11zWw86EkCiuOhTRohtP9-b3cSpO-twmZ%3DwdpoMH-Lg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">philiprnewell at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 12:07:21 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000184.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000186.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#185">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#185">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#185">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#185">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear John, I will reply in more detail in a couple of days when I have access to my AES journals. Floyd has certainly gone a long way towards taking Golden Ears out of the equation. Best wishes, Philip On 19 August 2014 19:34, John Woodgate <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">jmw at jmwa.demon.co.uk</A>> wrote: ><i> In message <CAEEhACk-b+Zg9k9RKYt=yFK9DY7wVhpsXvY4=pWeSm- </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">ALcCXrA at mail.gmail.com</A>>, dated Tue, 19 Aug 2014, philip newell < </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">philiprnewell at gmail.com</A>> writes: </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>>><i> This document often gets invoked for purposes for which </I>>><i> it is not suitable, and it gets quoted in papers to which it is not </I>>><i> relevant. </I>>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> It would be very helpful if you could give one or two misuses and one or </I>><i> two mis-citations. </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>>><i> Perhaps you should contact Floyd Toole about this. I am </I>>><i> sure that he will have some stimulating thoughts about it. </I>>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Very likely. However, I have found that different groups of 'golden ears' </I>><i> can differ very widely in their opinions. </I>><i> </I>><i> -- </I>><i> OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk </I>><i> Quid faciamus nisi sit? </I>><i> John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK </I>><i> </I>><i> _______________________________________________ </I>><i> SC-04-08 mailing list </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">SC-04-08 at standards.aes.org</A> </I>><i> <<A HREF="http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91">http://standards.aes.org/sc.cfm?ID=91</A>> </I>><i> </I></PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000184.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000186.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#185">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#185">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#185">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#185">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000186.html 3 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2</H1> <B>John Woodgate</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Revision%20of%20ITU-R%20BS.1116-2&In-Reply-To=%3CNgOCl3b0n58TFwlN%40jmwa.demon.co.uk%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2">jmw at jmwa.demon.co.uk </A><BR> <I>Tue Aug 19 12:39:48 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000185.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000187.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#186">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#186">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#186">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#186">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>In message <CAEEhACn11zWw86EkCiuOhTRohtP9-b3cSpO-twmZ=<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">wdpoMH-Lg at mail.gmail.com</A>>, dated Tue, 19 Aug 2014, philip newell <<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">philiprnewell at gmail.com</A>> writes: ><i> I will reply in more detail in a couple of days when I have access to </I>><i>my AES journals. </I> Thanks very much. ><i> </I>><i> Floyd has certainly gone a long way towards taking </I>><i>Golden Ears out of the equation. </I> I'm not sure how one can eliminate 'golden ears' from the panel of 'expert listeners' required by the standard. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000185.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000187.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#186">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#186">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#186">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#186">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000187.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES</H1> <B>AES Standards</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Liaison%20form%20SMPTE%20to%20AES&In-Reply-To=%3C1FE39F41-4CE8-4F0E-AB13-2FC347BDFB7A%40aes.org%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES">standards at aes.org </A><BR> <I>Fri Oct 3 09:29:41 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000186.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000188.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#187">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#187">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#187">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#187">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear Allan, It was very good to meet you in Amsterdam, and I also look forward to continued and improved cooperation. Thank you for your note. I have posted it to the SC-04-08 working-group secure document site with the filename, "x215-x216-SMPTE-to-AES-re-Modern-Calibration-and-Pink-Noise-2014-09-24-final.pdf". A direct login is available for SC-04-08 members at: <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> The two topics you mention will be discussed under liaison projects AES-X215 and AES-X216 during the SC-04-08 meeting next Thursday, as noted in the SC-04-08 agenda posted at <A HREF="http://www.aes.org/standards/meetings/.">http://www.aes.org/standards/meetings/.</A> You mention requesting comments on a "Modern Calibration Recommended Practice", however I find we do not have a copy and I have not been able to find it on the SMPTE web site. Could you forward a copy so that members of this standards working group may have an opportunity to read and understand it before Thursday's meeting? Many thanks, Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager On 2014-09-24, at 18:46, Alan Lambshead wrote: ><i> Mark </I>><i> </I>><i> Please find attached a liaison from SMPTE to AES regarding the Pink Noise and Modern Theatre Calibration work that SMPTE is undertaking. </I>><i> </I>><i> It was good to meet with you face to face in Amsterdam, and I look forward to continuing co-operation between our two organizations in the future. </I>><i> </I>><i> <SMPTE-to-AES-re-Modern-Calibration-and-Pink-Noise-2014-09-24-final.pdf> </I>><i> </I>><i> Alan Lambshead </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">alan.lambshead at icloud.com</A> </I>><i> Phone:+1 (416) 848-3119 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000186.html">[SC-04-08] Revision of ITU-R BS.1116-2 </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000188.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#187">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#187">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#187">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#187">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000188.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration</H1> <B>AES Standards</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Liaison%20from%20SMPTE%20to%20AES%20re%20Modern%20Theatre%0A%09Calibration&In-Reply-To=%3C2DA2ABC1-15B3-42E7-B666-91E006485479%40aes.org%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration">standards at aes.org </A><BR> <I>Fri Oct 3 09:45:43 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000187.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000198.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#188">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#188">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#188">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#188">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear Alan, Thank you for this note and the accompanying draft . I should clearly have checked all your notes before responding to the first! Thank you for your note. I have posted it to the SC-04-08 working-group secure document site with the filename, "x215-141002-DRAFT-SMPTE-Modern-Calibration.docx". A direct login is available for SC-04-08 members at:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> As already mentioned, this SMPTE draft will be discussed under liaison project AES-X215 during the SC-04-08 meeting next Thursday. SC-04-08 members please note: this draft is provided confidentially under a liaison agreement between AES and SMPTE. You may not distribute it further. regards, Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager On 2014-10-03, at 03:10, Alan Lambshead wrote: ><i> Mark </I>><i> </I>><i> Please find attached a liaison from SMPTE to AES requesting comments on the Modern Theatre Calibration work that SMPTE is undertaking. </I>><i> </I>><i> <SMPTE-to-AES-re-Modern-Calibration-2014-10-02.pdf> </I>><i> </I>><i> <SMPTE-Modern-Calibration-RP-for-AES-comment 2014-10-02.docx> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Alan Lambshead </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">alan.lambshead at icloud.com</A> </I>><i> Phone:+1 (416) 848-3119 </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I> Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> tel: +44 1594 517200 skype: markyonge </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000187.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison form SMPTE to AES </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000198.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Modern Theatre Calibration </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#188">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#188">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#188">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#188">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000189.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Pink Noise </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Pink Noise</H1> <B>AES Standards</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20Liaison%20from%20SMPTE%20to%20AES%20re%20Pink%20Noise&In-Reply-To=%3C56650A76-217B-4F6D-A1AA-5332E0663981%40aes.org%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Pink Noise">standards at aes.org </A><BR> <I>Fri Oct 3 10:00:17 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000218.html">[SC-04-08] x215 and x216 comments required re SMPTE Modern Theatre Calibration draft and Digital Pink Noise signal </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000190.html">[SC-04-08] SMPTE B-CHAIN REPORT NOW AVAILABLE </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#189">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#189">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#189">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#189">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Dear Alan, Thank you for your note and draft Pink Noise document for comment under our project AES-X216. I have posted it them the SC-04-08 working-group secure document site with the filenames, "x216-141002-SMPTE-to-AES-re-Pink Noise.pdf and x216-141002-DRAFT-SMPTE_Pink_Noise_Standard.docx". A direct login is available for SC-04-08 members at:<A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91">https://secure.aes.org/standards/documents/?ID=91</A> As already mentioned, this SMPTE draft will be discussed under liaison project AES-X216 during the SC-04-08 meeting next Thursday. SC-04-08 members please note: this draft is provided confidentially under a liaison agreement between AES and SMPTE. You may not distribute it further. regards, Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager On 2014-10-03, at 03:14, Alan Lambshead wrote: ><i> Mark </I>><i> </I>><i> Please find attached a liaison from SMPTE to AES requesting comments on the Pink Noise work that SMPTE is undertaking. </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> <SMPTE-to-AES-re-Pink Noise_2014-10-02.pdf> </I>><i> <SMPTE_Pink_Noise_Standard for AES comment 2014-10-02.docx> </I>><i> </I>><i> </I>><i> Alan Lambshead </I>><i> <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">alan.lambshead at icloud.com</A> </I>><i> Phone:+1 (416) 848-3119 </I> Mark Yonge AES Standards Manager <A HREF="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">standards at aes.org</A> tel: +44 1594 517200 skype: markyonge </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000218.html">[SC-04-08] x215 and x216 comments required re SMPTE Modern Theatre Calibration draft and Digital Pink Noise signal </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000190.html">[SC-04-08] SMPTE B-CHAIN REPORT NOW AVAILABLE </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#189">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#189">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#189">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#189">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://secure.aes.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-04-08">More information about the SC-04-08 mailing list</a><br> Expand 000190.html 4 KB HTML - Click to view Options Copy Download Link <TITLE> [SC-04-08] SMPTE B-CHAIN REPORT NOW AVAILABLE </TITLE> pre { white-space: pre-wrap; /* css-2.1, curent FF, Opera, Safari */ } <H1>[SC-04-08] SMPTE B-CHAIN REPORT NOW AVAILABLE</H1> <B>Brian McCarty</B> <A HREF="mailto:sc-04-08%40standards.aes.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSC-04-08%5D%20SMPTE%20B-CHAIN%20REPORT%20NOW%20AVAILABLE&In-Reply-To=%3C53B76ACA-601D-425E-8380-6249DD6EA505%40coralseastudios.com%3E" TITLE="[SC-04-08] SMPTE B-CHAIN REPORT NOW AVAILABLE">bmccarty at coralseastudios.com </A><BR> <I>Wed Oct 8 01:58:57 MDT 2014</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000189.html">[SC-04-08] Liaison from SMPTE to AES re Pink Noise </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000191.html">[SC-04-08] GoToMeeting Info </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#190">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#190">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#190">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#190">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>The long-awaited SMPTE report "B-Chain Frequency and Temporal Response Analysis of Theatres and Dubbing Stages" has at last been released in time for both the SC-04-08 Standards meeting, as well as the TC Sound for Digital Cinema and Television meeting this week. The report is too large for emailing. <A HREF="https://www.smpte.org/standards/reports">https://www.smpte.org/standards/reports</A> The report is also the topic of the Sound for Picture workshop SP3, at 2:00PM on Saturday, October 11, co-sponsored by the SMPTE. The discussion will include SMPTE 25CSS Co-Chair Brian Vessa, Drafting Group Chair Neil Shaw, and AES Fellow David Murphy. I'd like to thank all the AES Members who participated in this SMPTE work, which I proposed to the SMPTE originally in December of 2009. This is work that has long been needed in the film industry, and the AES expertise proved vital in preparing this report. These contributors include Dr. Floyd Toole, Philip Newell, Kurt Graffy, and special kudos to Glenn Leembruggen. The report provides a good catalyst for the further work necessary to produce new Standards, and some areas that need further study. All good topics for the upcoming AES 57th Conference in Hollywood, California - March 6-8, 2015. 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